In this inspiring episode, Mike Hickman, Leadership and Development Training Manager at Community First Yorkshire, talks with Sue Vasey, CEO of Chain Lane Community Hub in Knaresborough. Sue shares her unique approach to strategic visioning — starting with a bold utopian vision, free from constraints, before mapping the practical steps to get there. Drawing on a 13-year journey to save and revitalise Chain Lane Community Centre, Sue offers candid insights into leading through uncertainty, staying true to your values, and making tough ethical decisions — even when it means walking away from significant funding.

Together, they explore the role of self-leadership, the importance of generous leadership in the charity sector, and why integrity is non-negotiable. Sue’s final message to leaders navigating challenging times? “Never stop believing in yourself — you’re probably awesome.” Listeners will leave with renewed motivation, practical tools for keeping long-term goals in sight, and a reminder that the path to change may not be straightforward, but it’s always worth it.